Peggy Lee Forums Welcome to the public message center for PeggyLee.com http://www.peggylee.com/pegleebb/index.php Tue, 07 Sep 2010 19:40:02 -0600 Phorum 5.2.7 http://www.peggylee.com/pegleebb/read.php?3,9198,13438#msg-13438 Re: Your favorite ballads? http://www.peggylee.com/pegleebb/read.php?3,9198,13438#msg-13438 Mr.N Peggy Lee Bulletin Board Tue, 07 Sep 2010 11:04:39 -0600 http://www.peggylee.com/pegleebb/read.php?3,13433,13437#msg-13437 Re: Peggy 1960: five albums! http://www.peggylee.com/pegleebb/read.php?3,13433,13437#msg-13437
You can find the CD set at Drogeriemarkt Müller.

Manga hälsningar fran Tyskland.]]> Mr.N Peggy Lee Bulletin Board Tue, 07 Sep 2010 10:03:43 -0600 http://www.peggylee.com/pegleebb/read.php?3,13433,13436#msg-13436 Re: Peggy 1960: five albums! http://www.peggylee.com/pegleebb/read.php?3,13433,13436#msg-13436
I have looked for Peggy Lee, "Riding High" 3-CD set for a long time, but I haven't found it. I didn't know that it was released in Germany. Now I go to find it. Many thanks for your information!

Greetings from Sweden, Jarl]]> Jarl Ingves Peggy Lee Bulletin Board Tue, 07 Sep 2010 04:09:17 -0600 http://www.peggylee.com/pegleebb/read.php?3,13429,13435#msg-13435 Re: "Black Coffee" LP cover http://www.peggylee.com/pegleebb/read.php?3,13429,13435#msg-13435 Mr.N Peggy Lee Bulletin Board Mon, 06 Sep 2010 23:17:59 -0600 http://www.peggylee.com/pegleebb/read.php?3,13433,13434#msg-13434 Re: Peggy 1960: five albums! http://www.peggylee.com/pegleebb/read.php?3,13433,13434#msg-13434 Mr.N Peggy Lee Bulletin Board Mon, 06 Sep 2010 06:44:38 -0600 http://www.peggylee.com/pegleebb/read.php?3,13433,13433#msg-13433 Peggy 1960: five albums! http://www.peggylee.com/pegleebb/read.php?3,13433,13433#msg-13433 Latin ala Lee, All Aglow Again!, Pretty Eyes, Christmas Carousel and Ole ala Lee! What a set of albums. Last year there was a 3-CD set called Ridin' High containing all Peggy's albums released on Capitol between 1957-59, plus singles and an "exclusive" interview. Can't help wondering if we are in for the same sort of thing with the five 1960 albums. Whatever happens, it's nice to "celebrate" the great albums Peggy had available fifty years ago, and to quote the back of the Latin ala Lee sleeve... Viva La Lee!

Bob N.]]> Bob Noakes Peggy Lee Bulletin Board Sun, 05 Sep 2010 11:45:14 -0600 http://www.peggylee.com/pegleebb/read.php?3,13429,13432#msg-13432 Re: "Black Coffee" LP cover http://www.peggylee.com/pegleebb/read.php?3,13429,13432#msg-13432
Another 'classy' Decca cover is the one used for Miss Wonderful. Printed on that fine grainy paper that was sometimes used on select albums around that time until, I guess, it became too expensive to use.

Gee, I'm feeling all nostalgic.

Tony.]]> tony Peggy Lee Bulletin Board Sat, 04 Sep 2010 04:18:21 -0600 http://www.peggylee.com/pegleebb/read.php?3,13429,13431#msg-13431 Re: "Black Coffee" LP cover http://www.peggylee.com/pegleebb/read.php?3,13429,13431#msg-13431 Ernie Peggy Lee Bulletin Board Fri, 03 Sep 2010 13:50:50 -0600 http://www.peggylee.com/pegleebb/read.php?3,13429,13430#msg-13430 Re: "Black Coffee" LP cover http://www.peggylee.com/pegleebb/read.php?3,13429,13430#msg-13430
Or, it could be that on her other album cover photos she is establishing eye contact with "you" (you being: the lover she is addressing; the friend with whom she is conversing and in whom she is confiding; the nightclub audience member she is entertaining; or the record buyer she is hoping to seduce into purchasing her latest release) , but here, as she's so tired according to the title track, she can't raise her head high enough to face anyone; she can barely keep her eyelids open as she gazes absently at the tabletop and her lone companion, her coffee cup, and mulls over her innermost thoughts.

More likely, though, there was a push to issue the new recording as quickly as possible and there was no time to schedule a photo shoot.

If these ideas don't seem likely to you, please excuse the rambling; I've had too much caffeine today.]]> Kevin Peggy Lee Bulletin Board Thu, 02 Sep 2010 16:34:20 -0600 http://www.peggylee.com/pegleebb/read.php?3,13429,13429#msg-13429 "Black Coffee" LP cover http://www.peggylee.com/pegleebb/read.php?3,13429,13429#msg-13429 Black Coffee. I was just curious if anyone could hazard a guess why? I don't even see her reflection in the vase or coffeepot... B)-]]> Ernie Peggy Lee Bulletin Board Thu, 02 Sep 2010 13:59:30 -0600 http://www.peggylee.com/pegleebb/read.php?3,13399,13428#msg-13428 Re: A French "Rendezvous With Peggy Lee" http://www.peggylee.com/pegleebb/read.php?3,13399,13428#msg-13428 Quote:
Ivan
While we are talking about this album, let me say in passing that the very alluring cover

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always makes me think, "Hollywood actress / bombshell."

Yes, the Rendezvous cover always knocks me out, so to speak, and the LP introduced me to Peggy's first Capitol recordings followed six years later by Capitol's Peggy Lee Collectors Series CD. Especially fond of "While We're Young" on the former and "Everything's Movin' Too Fast" on the latter. Which leads me to another LP cover question which I will post in a new thread.]]> Ernie Peggy Lee Bulletin Board Thu, 02 Sep 2010 13:32:48 -0600 http://www.peggylee.com/pegleebb/read.php?3,13269,13427#msg-13427 Re: Books http://www.peggylee.com/pegleebb/read.php?3,13269,13427#msg-13427
I think I'll add "The Career Chronicle" to my wish list for Christmas and rather spend my own money on more Peggy albums. (tu)]]> Mr.N Peggy Lee Bulletin Board Tue, 31 Aug 2010 11:01:17 -0600 http://www.peggylee.com/pegleebb/read.php?3,12952,13426#msg-13426 Re: "Let's Love" http://www.peggylee.com/pegleebb/read.php?3,12952,13426#msg-13426 Mr.N Peggy Lee Bulletin Board Tue, 31 Aug 2010 10:55:17 -0600 http://www.peggylee.com/pegleebb/read.php?3,13326,13425#msg-13425 Re: Peggy with Benny Goodman http://www.peggylee.com/pegleebb/read.php?3,13326,13425#msg-13425 Mr.N Peggy Lee Bulletin Board Tue, 31 Aug 2010 10:39:46 -0600 http://www.peggylee.com/pegleebb/read.php?3,13363,13424#msg-13424 Re: BBC2 documentary http://www.peggylee.com/pegleebb/read.php?3,13363,13424#msg-13424 normad Peggy Lee Bulletin Board Tue, 31 Aug 2010 09:42:39 -0600 http://www.peggylee.com/pegleebb/read.php?3,13363,13423#msg-13423 Re: BBC2 documentary http://www.peggylee.com/pegleebb/read.php?3,13363,13423#msg-13423 Quote:
Bob Noakes
I think the fact the programme was called "Blonde on Blonde" was a bit of a warning that at least some of the content would be a bit "sensationalist" rather than to do with Peggy's musical genius. We will probably never know the truth behind some of the stories where the likes of Mel Torme, George Shearing, Jerry Leiber, Count Basie seemed to end up falling out with Peggy, and finding her "difficult" as Jerry Leiber put it. I didn't really like him seemingly criticising Peggy's singing of "I'm A Woman", apparently "too on the beat". I don't think PL liked him by the sounds of it, so maybe they just weren't suited!

I think you're right about the "sensationalist" aspect of the program, which was understandably edited to emphasize a certain kind of drama. Jerry Leiber (and Mike Stoller) remain huge fans of Peggy Lee, and she was a fan of theirs as well. It's just not much of a story to talk about those times when everyone and everything was in accord.

To put this in additional perspective, L&S refer to their partnership as "the longest running argument in show business." Conflict can be a vital — if difficult — part of the creative process, signifying an unwillingness to settle for less than the best of what either you or your collaborators can give. Peg was never one to settle, and while she may have paid a personal price for this, I think her recorded legacy amply demonstrates the unique rewards she reaped. When you get two or more strong personalities together, none of whom is prone to settling, you stand a good chance of getting fireworks — with all their brilliant beauty, and all their tendency to blow off fingers.]]> pstoller Peggy Lee Bulletin Board Mon, 30 Aug 2010 13:53:56 -0600 http://www.peggylee.com/pegleebb/read.php?3,13363,13422#msg-13422 Re: BBC2 documentary http://www.peggylee.com/pegleebb/read.php?3,13363,13422#msg-13422
Bob N.]]> Bob Noakes Peggy Lee Bulletin Board Sun, 29 Aug 2010 11:49:54 -0600 http://www.peggylee.com/pegleebb/read.php?3,13363,13421#msg-13421 Re: BBC2 documentary http://www.peggylee.com/pegleebb/read.php?3,13363,13421#msg-13421
Thanks David, for the link. I enjoyed the program.

As for Peggy being "difficult" I would think that's what she would have to be. Certainly in her time and age it was a man's world. I imagine it was hard to get things done her way at many occasions. Without her having a strong personality would there be a Peggy Lee?

I always imagined her to be strong. Her own book was a bit of a disappointment for me because for me she came across as very insecure. That was possibly part of the story but probably not all of it. Peter Richmond's book set things straight for me in that respect.

And with the movie coming... I wonder with what facts and fiction we will have to deal with. And what the soundtrack will be like...

Greetings,
Theo.]]> Theo Peggy Lee Bulletin Board Sun, 29 Aug 2010 08:17:41 -0600 http://www.peggylee.com/pegleebb/read.php?3,13363,13420#msg-13420 Re: BBC2 documentary http://www.peggylee.com/pegleebb/read.php?3,13363,13420#msg-13420
It was a special treat to hear "Miss Brown To You," of course; should we be optimistic that this and other archival treasures will one day be released?

Also it was fascinating to hear Peggy, Holly and Stella's comments; the memories of the "Elmer's Tune" and "The Man I Love" recording sessions, in particular, were startlingly clear, in that so much time had elapsed between the actual events and the taping of the recollections. Too, the observations about Peggy's film career were illuminating.

Always there are mysteries and unanswered questions, no matter how many anecdotes and opinions are included in discussions of Peggy and her career, however, and that is as it should be. The focus should be on the wondrous, unexplainable intangibility of her artistry; it is what makes her so compelling and what keeps us hungering for more.]]> Kevin Peggy Lee Bulletin Board Sat, 28 Aug 2010 10:55:19 -0600 http://www.peggylee.com/pegleebb/read.php?3,13408,13419#msg-13419 Re: Peggy Lee and Anita O'Day http://www.peggylee.com/pegleebb/read.php?3,13408,13419#msg-13419
If they had sang a song together in any show I think it had been good. Peggy Lee were guest in many of the other great singer's TV shows. She sang with Judy Garland, Eydie Gormé, Ella Fitzgerald, Jo Stafford, Dinah Shore, Lena Horne, Julie Andrews etc. All these ladies also worked with dancing, movies, theater and TV shows, and it was easy for them to work together. I don't know if Anita O'Day had these interests.

I think a female singer has easier to sing together with a male singer. The female nature say... "I must be better than her". Two male singer sings easier together. The male nature say: "I'm the best!"

Jarl.]]> Jarl Ingves Peggy Lee Bulletin Board Fri, 27 Aug 2010 05:37:41 -0600 http://www.peggylee.com/pegleebb/read.php?3,13363,13418#msg-13418 Re: BBC2 documentary http://www.peggylee.com/pegleebb/read.php?3,13363,13418#msg-13418
Richard.]]> Richardholland Peggy Lee Bulletin Board Fri, 27 Aug 2010 05:14:06 -0600 http://www.peggylee.com/pegleebb/read.php?3,13363,13417#msg-13417 Re: BBC2 documentary http://www.peggylee.com/pegleebb/read.php?3,13363,13417#msg-13417
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David]]> peggyfan Peggy Lee Bulletin Board Thu, 26 Aug 2010 15:44:27 -0600 http://www.peggylee.com/pegleebb/read.php?3,13408,13416#msg-13416 Re: Peggy Lee and Anita O'Day http://www.peggylee.com/pegleebb/read.php?3,13408,13416#msg-13416 Cristian Peggy Lee Bulletin Board Thu, 26 Aug 2010 13:23:33 -0600 http://www.peggylee.com/pegleebb/read.php?3,13363,13415#msg-13415 Re: BBC2 documentary http://www.peggylee.com/pegleebb/read.php?3,13363,13415#msg-13415 peterrichmond Peggy Lee Bulletin Board Thu, 26 Aug 2010 12:01:21 -0600 http://www.peggylee.com/pegleebb/read.php?3,13363,13414#msg-13414 Re: BBC2 documentary http://www.peggylee.com/pegleebb/read.php?3,13363,13414#msg-13414
This programme, though, was a little different to previous tributes, inasmuch as it focused more on Norma Egstrom, Peggy Lee, and Miss Peggy Lee the person... as she was to become, rather than a critique of her musical genius.

The first 40 minutes made for great listening, and included parts of an interview with Holly, explaining what a great cook her Grandma was... even while on tour. Interviews were interspersed, of course, with Peggy's hit records in chronological order. I never fail to be gob-smacked at the true beauty of Peggy's voice on "Seashells"... and a track was duly played... while, I think, the audience at home all held their breath to hear!

It was confusing, though, and rather disappointing, I think, to hear Peter Richmond being interviewed, as he seemed to focus on anything negative, suggesting Peggy was a hypochondriac, addicted to plastic surgery from her 30's, prone to temper tantrums and impossible to work with, and whose private life was "chaos". Perhaps it was intended to give a balanced overview, but it seemed altogether unnecessary and factually rather dubious. Perhaps the crux of the matter was to indicate that Peggy was very much the perfectionist, who needed, more and more, to have control of things... particularly as she got older... perhaps frustrated by her own failing health.

At the end of the programme, "Can't Think Straight " was played, and Gilbert O'Sullivan was interviewed, which lightened the mood again. He told us that when he performs the song today, he still has Peggy singing her part, projected onto a screen behind him.

Overall, an interesting programme, but one that again goes wide of the mark. The last BBC tribute, was titled "Jazz A La Lee ". This was also an interesting programme, but despite the title, focused on everything except Peggy's jazz recordings!]]> Gareth Peggy Lee Bulletin Board Thu, 26 Aug 2010 09:54:36 -0600 http://www.peggylee.com/pegleebb/read.php?3,13408,13413#msg-13413 Re: Peggy Lee and Anita O'Day http://www.peggylee.com/pegleebb/read.php?3,13408,13413#msg-13413
According to a person who knew her during her later years, Anita said that she and Peggy had been good friends for some time in the past, but they had had "a falling out" and afterwards their friendship permanently stopped. In her autobiography, Anita doesn't mention any friendship but she does make a couple of comments about Peggy's singing.

About the Benny Goodman anecdote, no, it is not exactly true. Here is how Anita tells the story in her book:

Quote:
Later that year, Benny Goodman, "The King of Swing," was playing the Chicago Theater. Somebody heard he was looking for a girl singer and I hurried over to audition.

When my turn came, I handed this nothing song they'd assigned me to the audition pianist. He played the intro and I took off. During my months at the Off-Beat [nightclub], I'd learned a lot. I paid my respects to the melody to make sure I was keeping in touch with my listeners, then I began to play around with the chord structure and the beat, returning to a bit of the melody at the end.

Benny jumped up, obviously annoyed. "What was that? You didn't sing the melody."

"I don't sing the melody on songs like this one," I informed him. "Everybody already knows the melody."

"In my band, the girl singer sings the melody," he said.

It was his band. I couldn't argue. I didn't say anything. I just turned on my heel and walked out.

The next girl who auditioned I think was Helen Forrest, who had a warm, musical voice and got the gig. I wasn't devastated. Benny and I weren't meant for one another, musically speaking. He wanted me to sing the melody and I don't always feel that.

This audition happened before Anita went on to become famous with the bands of Gene Krupa and Stan Kenton.

Helen Forrest was the singer who preceded Peggy in the role of canary with Goodman's orchestra.

As Jarl wrote, after Anita became famous, she did sing with Goodman, during that European tour. One or more of her concert numbers with Goodman (I forgot how many exactly) have been out on LP and CD. I too am a big fan of Anita; her take on "Four Brothers" is definitely among my top numbers by her.

Ivan]]> Iv Peggy Lee Bulletin Board Wed, 25 Aug 2010 13:32:10 -0600 http://www.peggylee.com/pegleebb/read.php?3,13409,13412#msg-13412 Re: New Peggy mini-LP CD http://www.peggylee.com/pegleebb/read.php?3,13409,13412#msg-13412
It would be nice if one day Peggy's entire Decca output were to be released in just one boxed set with pristine sound quality, don't you think?

I have never bought any LPTime CDs, except for one that I purchased used. (They are too expensive for my budget, and if I were to try to order just one, I probably wouldn't resist the temptation of getting 8 or 9 more.) But I do agree that the rarer album offerings are worth picking up. Who else would think of issuing artists as obscure as Dolores Hawkins, Joyce Carr, or Marcy Lutes?

Not that the artistry is the series' raison d'etre, mind you. You can't help but laugh when you look at their catalogue. The choices are apparently made on the basis of how much of a cheesecake the photos on the covers are -- presumably because there is market for this material among male Japanese collectors. If you have never seen their catalogue, take a look at the 5 pages advertised here:

[www.catfish-records.jp]

Ivan]]> Iv Peggy Lee Bulletin Board Wed, 25 Aug 2010 13:03:32 -0600 http://www.peggylee.com/pegleebb/read.php?3,13409,13411#msg-13411 Re: New Peggy mini-LP CD http://www.peggylee.com/pegleebb/read.php?3,13409,13411#msg-13411 Allen Bardin Peggy Lee Bulletin Board Wed, 25 Aug 2010 07:42:03 -0600 http://www.peggylee.com/pegleebb/read.php?3,13408,13410#msg-13410 Re: Peggy Lee and Anita O'Day http://www.peggylee.com/pegleebb/read.php?3,13408,13410#msg-13410
I also like Anita O'Day's song very much. She is like Peggy Lee a very good singer. But if I must select between Peggy Lee and Anita O'Day I also had selected Peggy. Peggy Lee's voice is more colourfull, softly, variable. Peggy had always more feeling for the songs, than many of the other great singing stars. Anita O'Day's voice is harder for Goodman's swing music. In 1958 Benny Goodman came to Stockholm with Anita O'Day as singer. All was very good but I remember that some of the songs had been better if Peggy Lee had sang them. Anita O'Day had a very great song "Four Brother's" as she sang with Woody Herman and that song is very great and no one can sing it better. That song was made for her. Peggy Lee was the best and the greatest of all white female singers. Benny Goodman had feeling for what was the best for his music and herefor he selected Peggy Lee. I know that Glenn Miller also was interested of Peggy Lee at the same time.

Best wishes to you all!
Jarl]]> Jarl Ingves Peggy Lee Bulletin Board Wed, 25 Aug 2010 02:55:58 -0600 http://www.peggylee.com/pegleebb/read.php?3,13409,13409#msg-13409 New Peggy mini-LP CD http://www.peggylee.com/pegleebb/read.php?3,13409,13409#msg-13409
This has already been issued on mini-LP CD format in Japan once before. However, I thought I would mention this latest re-issue (LPT-1125) on the LPTime label, as it also contains 8 bonus tracks, as follows: Baubles, bangles and beads / He needs me/ I never knew / Apples, peaches and cherries / That's what a woman is for / Never mind / Where can I go without you? / I don't know enough about you

For those not aware of the LPTime label, these are expensive imports which I believe are semi-bootleg. They originate in Europe (Spain) and are aimed squarely at the Japanese market (they even come with their own version of the OBI strip). However, they are stocked by HMV Japan....]]> paulb Peggy Lee Bulletin Board Tue, 24 Aug 2010 12:45:47 -0600